Hi there

Im a first time user of datataker loggers and i am having some trouble in the comunication with the logger and with the programing of it

I am in a monotoring project that had a DT80 (2 series) v7.09, and know im the new "owner" of it. but i have to put 2 new sensors.

I've read the manual and i downloaded the programs that are in the Datataker site to use with it. But i found myself struggling with some issues:

• i've installed DeLoad, DeTranfer ande DtUSB (v1.2.00) to try to link myself to the logger (i use i PC with XP SP2). I tryed to link to the logger through a USB cable but when i launch DtUSB, it say that the connection to the logger is pending or that is no logger linked (what is not true because i can link to the logger with DeTranfer).

Another question is: can i take out of the logger's memory the program to edit it and if i have made some programming mistake send the same initial program (because if i send a new program even with a new name a lose the one that is working in the logger right?)?

-I also have a question about dEX: can i add these new sensors with out altering the funtion of all the other ones? (this is a very serious point for me!)

• i made a program for for all the sensors base on one of the possible program that is in the logger and with the help of the manual i wrote the code for the 2 new sensors. I didnt find a compile program to help me to know if it correct or not.

I will post my code here and hope that some one can tell me if it correct or not:

RESET

/e/m
DELONRESET
DELDATA""
DELALARMS""
DELJOB"*"
BEGIN"*"

P31=1
P33=10
P41=0
PS=RS232,9600,N,8,1

1$="v 1.0"
98CV(W)=57.2957795132
99CV(W)=1001
39CV(W)=0
70CV(W)=0
71CV(W)=0

Y2=0,0.1"o/o"
Y7=0,0.1"mm"
Y3=0,68.446"W/m2"
Y4=0,__"W/m2"
Y13=0,0.001

RS10S

RA10S

99CV("EMA",W,FF0)
T("Hora",W)
1SERIAL("\e\m[Q,]%d[40CV],%f[50CV],M,%d[59CV]",W,2)
ALARM1(59CV>1)"ERROR Windsonic"
59CV(W)=0
50CV("VV~m/s",NL,FF1)
40CV("DV~deg",NL,FF0)
41CV(W)=SIN(40CV/98CV)
42CV(W)=COS(40CV/98CV)
1PT385("TA~ºC",4W,NL,FF1,=10CV)
2V(Y2,W,FF1,=20CV)
20CV("HR~%",NL,FF0)=100+((20CV-100)(20CV<100))
3V(W,T,Y3,=30CV)
30CV("RG~W/m2",NL,FF0)=30CV(30CV>0)
4V(W,T,Y4,=60CV)
60CV("CUV3~W/m2",NL,FF0)=60CV*(60CV>0)
1HSC("P~mm",Y7,NL,R,FF1,=79CV)
70CV(w)=70CV+79CV
71CV(w)=71CV+79CV
2#HV("VBat~V",NL,1,FF1,=80CV)

ALARM(T><23:59:50,23:59:59){XC}

RB1H

10CV("Tmd~ºC",AV,FF1)
20CV("HRmd~%",AV,FF0)
30CV("RG~kJ/m2",INT,Y13,FF0)
60CV("CUV3~kJ/m2",INT,Y13,FF0)
50CV("VVmd~m/s",AV,FF2,=91CV)("VVmx (m/s)",MX,FF1)
41CV(W,AV,=93CV)
42CV(W,AV,=94CV)
43CV("DV~deg",FF0)=(98CVATAN(93CV/(94CV+1E-
6(94CV=0)))+180(94CV<0)+360(93CV<=0)(94CV>=0))(91CV>0.05)
70CV("P~mm",FF1,R)
80CV("VBat~V",MN,FF1)
99CV("EMA",FF0)

RCX
10CV("Tmx~ºC",MX,FF1)("Tmd(ºC)",AV,FF1)("Tmn(ºC)",MN,FF1)
20CV("HRmx~%",MX,FF0)("HRmd(%)",AV,FF0)("HRmn(%)",MN,FF0)
30CV("RG~kJ/m2",INT,Y13,FF1)
60CV("CUV3~kJ/m2",INT,Y13,FF1)
50CV("VVmd~m/s",AV,FF1,=91CV)("VVmx (m/s)",MX,FF1)
41CV(W,AV,=93CV)
42CV(W,AV,=94CV)
43CV("DV~deg",FF0)=(98CVATAN(93CV/(94CV+1E-
6(94CV=0)))+180(94CV<0)+360(93CV<=0)(94CV>=0))(91CV>0.05)
71CV("P~mm",FF1,R)
99CV("EMA",FF0)

LOGON
END
RUNJOBONRESET"Measurement DTaker Unit"

If anyone needs anymore info to get me going please ask! i will gladdly give it to you!! :shock: :idea:

Thanks in advanced

RedDragoon

P.S. Is it possible that the logger is password protected?!?

Hi RedDragoon,

I will try to address all of your question, please remind me if I miss something.

You have a quite old firmware version 7.09 installed in DT80, the new version is 9.16.
Upgrading the firmware should be done, however since your logger is used to monitor a project then I need to know the existing program to determine whether the new firmware will not interrupt the process.
There are a slight changes in some function (in 9.16) which may not compatible with the old one.

Furthermore DtUSB version 1.2.0.0 has a new DT driver for USB connection (version 2.10) while I am sure firmware version 7.09 has an old version of DT driver (version 2.04 or 2.06).
Incompatibility between DT firmware and DT USB driver may cause the USB connection is not recognized by your PC.

There are two programming methods in dataTaker:

• dEX
  it has a nice interface that help you configuring schedule and channels
  it will create a job with CONFIG name
  less complex functionality
  program created in dEX can be opened using command console program (DeTransfer/ dEX command) but not the other way around

• native language
  it is created using command console program
  must have understanding dataTaker programming concept
  it is possible to create many job with various name
  offer all complex functionality
  program created in native language can't be opened in dEX

Your program is written in native language therefore you can edit and add two new sensors in that code using the same native language.
Or if you want to try using dEX, you need to "rewrite" the whole program in dEX.

About your program:
Job name should have 8 characters long.
This syntax has relation with job name
DELDATA"TEST"
DELALARMS"TEST"
DELJOB"TEST"
RUNJOBONRESET"TEST" 'this syntax is obsolete in the new firmware, replaced with PROFILE STARTUP RUN="TEST"

This is the beginning of a program, it has a declared job name "TEST"
BEGIN"TEST"

About security

There are two types of security in dataTaker:

• command console protection
  will disable any command that come from command console
  you can set it up from command console
  PASSWORD="TECH"
  After 10 minutes dataTaker will automatically sign off, otherwise you may use SIGNOFF command to force early sign off.
  Type in TECH to gain access
  PASSWORD="" will remove any assigned password.
  Remember HRESET will also remove the password.

• dEX protection
  only available with firmware 9.16
  it will give access to selective users based on their role

Best regards,
Rudy

Hi Rudy

Thanks for all your answers. But i still have some doubts

-Can i access the old program that is in the logger memory in a way that i can edit it?

-Can i still find the old DtUSB driver for this logger?

-If i send the program that i posted before would it run in the logger? (this program that i posted has already the 2 new sensors i need!!)

-If i download the new firmware to the logger, it resets all that the loggers has (data, program, all the jobs!)?

Thanks once again, for your time

JP

Hi RedDragoon,

My apology, just realised that I missed your post.

1. You may access the old program in dataTaker by using SHOWPROG command, however your choice to edit and re-use it will be limited to native programming only (DeTransfer or dEX command console).
2. Although I can send you the old USB driver, I recommend you to upgrade the firmware. New firmware will give you many new features.
3. You can use that program and take out a few line (which is not related to your two new sensors).
4. Upgrading into new firmware will not erase the job and data.

Best regards,
Rudy Gunawan

Hi RedDragon,

Yes yes you can password protect your logger.
There is a couple of ways to do this

1/ For older firmware use the password command. e.g password="fred" will set the password to fred.

2/ Another reason to upgrade to the latest firmware is you can password protect with different levels of user.
There are profile setting to do this

Cheers

Roger

Hi guys

Me again with a new problem, that i don't even know if its because of the old one.....

With your help (many thanks for it) i put the program in the DT80 using the send terminal of DeTranfer and it was running perfectly until the power went down. After that the logger lost the program. I then brought it home, and run a diagnostic test (see below):

E/M/R
DT80> TEST
TEST report generated at 2015/03/30,15:12:46
dataTaker 80 Version 7.08.0001 Flash 2009/06/26 09:59:17

Product: DT80-2
Serial Number: 087950

VEXT 14.4 V
VBAT (6V) 6.40 V PASS
IBAT +9 mA PASS
VSYS 7.05 V PASS
VLITH (3.6V) 3.58 V PASS
VDD (3.3V) 3.26 V PASS
VANA (3.8V) 3.57 V PASS
VRELAY (4.5V) 4.85 V PASS

VREF (2.5V) 2500.18 mV PASS
Ics I 0.21283 mA PASS
Ics II 2.5654 mA PASS
Vos diff -1.4 uV PASS
Vos 3W I 200.7 uV PASS
Vos 3W II -221.1 uV PASS
Vos shunt -33.7 uV PASS
Vos + -1.0 uV PASS
Vos - -2.1 uV PASS
Vos -0.7 uV PASS
Vos # -65.1 uV PASS
Vos diff atten 55.7 uV PASS
Vos + atten 56.0 uV PASS
Vos - atten 55.7 uV PASS
Vos atten 55.5 uV PASS
Term. factor 1.00470 PASS
Shunt (100R) 99.846 Ohm PASS
CMRR 104.5 dB PASS

Overall health PASS
DT80>

No problem found. I then sent again the program, but when i take the power of the logger and turn it on again, the program is gone.

Do you think in doing something wrong when i send the program? Why doesn't it save the program in is memory if the internal battery seems to be fine? Should i change the internal battery just in case? Could it be a memory problem?

Thanks in advanced for your time
Best Regards

RedDragoon

Hi RedDragoon,

Could you please upgrade your logger firmware to the latest?
Version 7.08 had fail to upload a job on power cycle issue (fixed on 8.00 version).

Best regards,
Rudy Gunawan

Hi Rudy

I can try but, will i be still able to communicate and send the same program to the logger, through DeTranfer?

Best regards

Hi ,

You will be still able to use the deTransfer and communicate to the logger in new firmware

Thanks
Regards
Lokesh Madapati